Teach the kid how to behave properly with the disability, and put the kid to useful volunteer work like at a supervised nursing home.

Scholar wrote:

^his wording may be wrong but I always had that question. Don't kids with autism receive special education or something?

Not everyone has the money to afford that type a special needs education.

Everyone deserves education. If special education isn't an option, the kid should still be taught in school. It doesn't upset the rhythm of the class or the other students learning the material unless you choose it to. They're still sentient beings who can learn things and shouldn't have to idle in their houses for 20 years while other kids learn things.

dopewolf you always manage to amaze me by how stupid and ignorant you are

i agree that if you can defend yourself you should. ive never been bullied but i wouldn't let that shit fly even if i wound up getting laid out. the difference is some kids are clearly physically inferior to the bully and they don't have any way of defending themselves. another problem arises when there's more than one bully. trying to defend yourself from 5 kids who are bigger than you is reckless and stupid. what should really happen is kids who bully should get severely punished for their bullying and maybe it wouldn't happen again. the issue is society thinks it's a normal thing that will just happen and you'll have to deal with it. bullying happens in every school and continues to happen because kids get let off the hook with an office detention or a 3 day suspension

Where the fuck did you go to school?

dopewolf wrote:

clockwork wrote:

i agree that if you can defend yourself you should. ive never been bullied but i wouldn't let that shit fly even if i wound up getting laid out. the difference is some kids are clearly physically inferior to the bully and they don't have any way of defending themselves. another problem arises when there's more than one bully. trying to defend yourself from 5 kids who are bigger than you is reckless and stupid. what should really happen is kids who bully should get severely punished for their bullying and maybe it wouldn't happen again. the issue is society thinks it's a normal thing that will just happen and you'll have to deal with it. bullying happens in every school and continues to happen because kids get let off the hook with an office detention or a 3 day suspension

It isn't about being physically inferior than someone who is bullying you thus the reason you cannot fight, it's about standing up and doing it regardless of how inferior you are physically.

In physical altercations it usually comes down to the fight in the dog. People who bully more often than not bark louder than they bite. If word gets around "the kid who got bullied, got into it with so and so" that sets an example and hopefully gives some inspiration to other kids to stand up for themselves regardless of what happens.

As far as more than one bully picking on a kid, that calls for beating the shit out of the head bully with a spiked fucking bat and fucking him up really bad to the point where he would need a facelift, that will set his followers in line pretty damn quick.

The problem with your ignorant theory is that if a kid being bullied gets in a fight, and assuming somehow the bully doesn't have friends backing him up or something, and the kid who's being bullied wins the fight, often times he'll get in trouble with the school or possibly the police depending on the schools policies. Leaving the kid being bullied with the option to either getting in trouble with the law, or with the school, or alliteratively he can continue to take harassment, which is apparently the socially excepted norm now.

dopewolf wrote:

As far as more than one bully picking on a kid, that calls for beating the shit out of the head bully with a spiked fucking bat and fucking him up really bad to the point where he would need a facelift, that will set his followers in line pretty damn quick.

Once when I was being bullied, I put my right hand on the bully's chest and threw him some 3 yards away from me. My radium split in two. Not sure if he stopped fucking with me out of fear/respect or because I was in pain.

My friend knew this black guy that always used to fuck with him in school. One day said black guy (he's about a foot taller btw) runs up to my friend hits him in the nuts and lays him out on a table with another punch. Luckily my friend was a boxer and beat the shit out of Mr. Black guy. An assistant principal found my friend beating the shit out of a crying black guy with what I remember to be a broken nose. My friend got suspended and Mr. Black guy gets off scott-free

sinner wrote:

dopewolf wrote:

clockwork wrote:

i agree that if you can defend yourself you should. ive never been bullied but i wouldn't let that shit fly even if i wound up getting laid out. the difference is some kids are clearly physically inferior to the bully and they don't have any way of defending themselves. another problem arises when there's more than one bully. trying to defend yourself from 5 kids who are bigger than you is reckless and stupid. what should really happen is kids who bully should get severely punished for their bullying and maybe it wouldn't happen again. the issue is society thinks it's a normal thing that will just happen and you'll have to deal with it. bullying happens in every school and continues to happen because kids get let off the hook with an office detention or a 3 day suspension

It isn't about being physically inferior than someone who is bullying you thus the reason you cannot fight, it's about standing up and doing it regardless of how inferior you are physically.

In physical altercations it usually comes down to the fight in the dog. People who bully more often than not bark louder than they bite. If word gets around "the kid who got bullied, got into it with so and so" that sets an example and hopefully gives some inspiration to other kids to stand up for themselves regardless of what happens.

As far as more than one bully picking on a kid, that calls for beating the shit out of the head bully with a spiked fucking bat and fucking him up really bad to the point where he would need a facelift, that will set his followers in line pretty damn quick.

The problem with your ignorant theory is that if a kid being bullied gets in a fight, and assuming somehow the bully doesn't have friends backing him up or something, and the kid who's being bullied wins the fight, often times he'll get in trouble with the school or possibly the police depending on the schools policies. Leaving the kid being bullied with the option to either getting in trouble with the law, or with the school, or alliteratively he can continue to take harassment, which is apparently the socially excepted norm now.

I think your missing the point, sometimes the price of standing up for yourself means getting in trouble. Sometimes the price of possibly ending torment upon yourself means getting in shit by your parents or a principle. The repercussions have nothing to do with standing up for what's right and what's good.

Scholar wrote:

Once when I was being bullied, I put my right hand on the bully's chest and threw him some 3 yards away from me. My radium split in two. Not sure if he stopped fucking with me out of fear/respect or because I was in pain.

Good for you man. At least you did something and didn't take it like a pussy

My faith in humanity was waning until I read this heartwarming story: http://www.wpix.com/news/wpix-officer-may-be-fired-after-stopping-beatdown,0,2795580.story

DysteryMingo wrote:

My friend knew this black guy that always used to fuck with him in school. One day said black guy (he's about a foot taller btw) runs up to my friend hits him in the nuts and lays him out on a table with another punch. Luckily my friend was a boxer and beat the shit out of Mr. Black guy. An assistant principal found my friend beating the shit out of a crying black guy with what I remember to be a broken nose. My friend got suspended and Mr. Black guy gets off scott-free

It's not about seeing who can throw the harder punches. Fixing something that's wrong(like bullying) doesn't mean applying the same problem to the other side of the equation to a greater degree. You have to figure out what's wrong, and find out how you can do something about it without escalating the problem further. To add to that, life isn't always fair and the people who judge your actions will never be 100% objective with access to 100% of the information that influenced your actions. The solution? Don't do stupid shit or make rash decisions.

Also, I realize that your friend was probably pissed because this guy had been messing with him for quite a while. However, if this had been going on that long and he hadn't done anything about it then how could he expect it to do anything but continue?

dopewolf wrote:

Good for you man. At least you did something and didn't take it like a pussy

I lost a close friend late last year after he took his own life due to bullying over his sexual orientation. It might be easy to just call someone a 'pussy' if you've never been in that situation, but often times the reason people get bullied to begin with is due to their inability to defend themselves. I haven't read the whole thread but you're coming off to me as fucking ignorant, and I don't think it would hurt for you to try and empathize towards people who face serious issues such as bullying.

tooth wrote:

DysteryMingo wrote:

My friend knew this black guy that always used to fuck with him in school. One day said black guy (he's about a foot taller btw) runs up to my friend hits him in the nuts and lays him out on a table with another punch. Luckily my friend was a boxer and beat the shit out of Mr. Black guy. An assistant principal found my friend beating the shit out of a crying black guy with what I remember to be a broken nose. My friend got suspended and Mr. Black guy gets off scott-free

It's not about seeing who can throw the harder punches. Fixing something that's wrong(like bullying) doesn't mean applying the same problem to the other side of the equation to a greater degree. You have to figure out what's wrong, and find out how you can do something about it without escalating the problem further. To add to that, life isn't always fair and the people who judge your actions will never be 100% objective with access to 100% of the information that influenced your actions. The solution? Don't do stupid shit or make rash decisions.

dopewolf wrote:

Good for you man. At least you did something and didn't take it like a pussy

fuck you! a broken right arm for 2 months during school time...do you know how much that fucking sucks?

to not be able to even wipe your ass properly

to stop a bully you have to make an statement; there is no need to go as far to hurt yourself or get into trouble

This is so sad to see. I'm glad that every aid and teacher I have ever met has tried their best to help students with special needs, but of course, that was because most of the public schools we have here are focusing more on inclusive education.

Personally, I don't think separating the students with special needs from those who can function or learn properly is useful in the long run. Kids need to be immersed in their surroundings or they won't be able to adapt well when they get older. Severe cases would be a bit different, but it is possible to bring them into the normal classroom for a few hours a day.

Scholar wrote:

dopewolf wrote:

Good for you man. At least you did something and didn't take it like a pussy

fuck you! a broken right arm for 2 months during school time...do you know how much that fucking sucks?

to not be able to even wipe your ass properly

to stop a bully you have to make an statement; there is no need to go as far to hurt yourself or get into trouble

Lol who can't wipe with their other hand.. it's not like you had 2 broken arms. You were still able to wipe said ass.

that teacher is so fucked, any video like this that gets tons of hits will be on the news in no time. kind of like this one

i'm not surprised by this, i've been through it before especially in middle school. i remember coming into class a little late of course the morbidly obese teachers pet would attempt to make a joke about it, the moment i say a word the teacher would look at me like i have ten heads.

i got into fights all the time over stupid shit, teachers and principal's literally do nothing but give detention or suspension because they're seriously retarded when it comes to dealing with kids, its honestly a false title when you think about it, just because you got the easiest fucking degree in the world and started as a sub does not mean you know how to handle kids, just sitting behind a desk and regurgitating shit from your college professors, sadddddd

something tells me dopewolf is a bully, at least he'll probably overdose on weed one day and die

ppl actually got bullied in highschool? I thought that was only in disney movies.

Sadly, the way the teacher/s acted doesn't shock me at all. Working with people let alone children who are cognitively impaired is a very stressful job. However there is absolutely no excuse for how the teacher acted in this, and I hope she never gets the opportunity to step into a classroom again.

My mother teaches a special needs preschool class and I am amazed how well she handles herself. Possibly the most patient and tolerant person I know. I remember going with her to 'take-your-son-to-work-day', and say I would snap trying to teach special education after a few hours from the noise/frustration. Not to mention kids in general can be a tough to work with.

So much respect for anyone working in the special education field that treats their class right. Hats off to you.

another reason to loose faith in humanity: http://www.tmz.com/2012/04/24/kim-kardashian-keeping-up-with-the-kardashians-40-million-deal/

mausy wrote:

when I was around 13, freshman year of highschool I was bullied a ton because I was gay. Teachers never acted out to help, even when it was blatantly infront of them. It got to the point where the teachers who were smart asses and were trying to be "cool" with the popular kids just simply yell at me and tell me to stop "tattle tailing" when someone hurt me physically in class.They would often over-exaggerate when I got things wrong or I would get detentions from those teachers from doing things like swearing at some kid after he just punched me.

school is not a safe fucking place and i'm sick when my therapist and doctor tell me so, because even the teachers support the bullies. The principal of my school did practically nothing when I told them what the teachers were doing, nor did they do anything about the bullying unless my mom threatened to sue. school is the reason why i'm now completely socially awkward, shy, and quiet in real life. school is not a damn safe place and I urge no gay person to come out until college because assholes will literally make your life hell and you'll be looked at as the weird one when your on suicide watch, getting therapy, and have no friends because thats what happened to me

I almost came out to a friend at school, we were joking about some stupid stuff high school teenagers do. A gay joke was made and I became quiet, thinking it would be good for me to "man up" and come out. During my silence he asked me "You're not gay are you?."
From the tone in his voice I could tell I should abort the plan and I said no. He let out the loudest sigh of relief and said "Thank fucking god" and then asked me if he could borrow a pencil.

I'm 100% sure sure that if I had said yes he would have turned around and my high school experience would have been 10x's worse than it already was. During my Senior year there was an openly gay, and somewhat annoying flamer, that everyone would pick on. There was one group of kids that would flinch or push each other into him saying "Did it touch me?!" or "You touched it!"
Mind you these were seniors doing this, teachers did nothing of course.

There was talk of opening a LGBT High School in Chicago during the end of the year. Of course everyone hated the idea and the city was never able to build it.
One girl in my class said "Those...kids...would just end up fucking all the time or something gross" And jokes were made every time it was brought up in discussions.

Like Mausy said, if you're a dude and happen to like dudes. For the love of god don't tell people that in high school. Hell, I still don't tell anyone unless they actually need to know. Sure there are high schools that aren't filled with complete idiots but its a rare case. I don't think betting your entire high school experience is worth letting people know that you like dudes. It sucked having to deal with that during my high school years, I remember not sleeping and feeling sick from nerves when I accepted the fact. It would have made things so much easier if I had someone to talk to about it but you can't do that in high school. It's not safe and its not fair but authority figures too often act like little kids themselves, so you have to handle the problem the best you can

TRUKTRUK wrote:

something tells me dopewolf is a bully, at least he'll probably overdose on weed one day and die

Doubt it, I get the feeling he is the type of person who has never gotten into a fight or any sort of confrontation before but loves to act like he knows all about it.

Thanks to whoever banned him though, the babble was getting silly.